su 30MK cobra & kulbit

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the agile 30 tonne beast performing mind numbing stunts see it to believe it

Channel: Howto & Style
Uploaded: February 9, 2007 at 6:06 am
Author: kiranflanker

Length: 00:03:06
Rating: 4.89
Views: 17840

Tags: Su 30MK

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nakazatoGTR (August 30, 2008 at 8:14 am)
russian pilot generally taught?
i dont think you even know realities of air combat.
what use is a cobra when you have AIM-9X running after you at 700 knots?
no the aim 9x would not find it hard to hit a stationary target.
strizhi (August 30, 2008 at 10:39 am)
Thats why Su-27 and up are not stationary they can fly like any fighter but have that as a back up.
nakazatoGTR (September 1, 2008 at 6:18 pm)
tvc as back up for what? being easily killed?
look buster, i ask you, take a rack try to stone sum1 on a bike.

easy or harder that stoning a post?

how bout sum1 on a bike zigzaggin like hell?

sumtime you need to learn your physics.
strizhi (September 1, 2008 at 10:26 pm)
Until you get your pilots license you can talk to me then. Its so funny that people bash this type of aerobatics that already proved itself against an F-15 in 1992 during a live excercise against a Russian Su-27. The Russian pilot so carried away he took out an F-18 which was simply filming the dogfight. Take that and eat it, but like I said its just like any other jet fighter when it comes to sheer speed if not better.
nakazatoGTR (September 4, 2008 at 5:29 am)
pilots license does not guarantee any BRAINS..

took out an observer plane too eh?
things couldnt be to s2pid for the russkie?

well all i meant that a sudden kulbi/cobra isnt any help in a medium range combat.
hard to do in close range.
do it wrong and you've bought the farm.
chrslbrt (August 22, 2008 at 8:42 am)
While that is true, that lead amount of lead is correspondent to the calculaed aircraft speed, which means, if the aircraft speeds up, then the lead is bigger. If is slow, the lead is slower. And if that lead theory of your was correct, then why not just slow down while flying @ another angle? That would basically do the same thing. It may work for a Vietnam Era missile, but not ANY recent missile from any country.
w35m4n (August 23, 2008 at 2:15 am)
It would have to be done when the missile is fairly close, the idea is it doesn't have time to correct for the sudden deceleration so it overshoots. I don't know that this would actually work, and it is not my idea, it is just what people generally say is the only way a cobra maneuver might be useful in combat, but I don't think anyone wants top test it because of the chance of getting a missile up thier ass. I'm not saying it wwould be useful, just that it might.
nakazatoGTR (August 30, 2008 at 8:17 am)
yeah it may be done in ranges of 100 to 200 yds, but a bit beyond that, kulbit is suicide.

especially if the pursuer has a wingman or so.
plus new AIM-9X processes target leads 90X faster than AIM-9m.
can lock onto an engine's heat 45 degrees off boresight, can tightly maneuver to a target closeup, head on.
w35m4n (August 22, 2008 at 8:12 am)
From what I've read an Su-27 is lighter than an F-22 but an Su-30 MKI is heavier loaded.
F-22 empty: 19700 kg
F-22 loaded: 29300 kg
Su-27 empty: 16380 kg
Su-27 full: 23000 kg
Su-30 MKI empty: 17700 kg
Su-30 MKI full: 34500 kg
Couldn't find weight for the MK, not quite sure how close it is to mki but I think it is about the same or heavier.
nakazatoGTR (August 30, 2008 at 8:11 am)
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