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Channel: Howto & Style
Uploaded: April 30, 2006 at 7:39 pm
Author: thesunrisestwice

Length: 00:06:36
Rating: 4.72
Views: 198610

Tags: f22 f-22 fa-22 raptor jet plane usaf air force war fighter

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realdennis79 (November 17, 2008 at 6:21 am)
I dont understan why some of folks keep talking about theoratical top speed.

do you think in every combat situation air planes go for maximum speed?

If pilots want to dog fight, alomst every fighter jets engage around mach 1 within visual range.

Would you go for max speed for 30 to 40 mins in combat situation or mach 1.5 for 3 hours?

A/B will be used with limitation.
realdennis79 (November 17, 2008 at 6:40 am)
F-22 is stealth jet which means unless there is a way to dictact it. F-22 will see an advasary earlier. Therefore, it will almost every time have an advantage in Angle of Attack.

For example: A F-22 dictacts SU-37 first. Performs air manuvering. Lock down the target. Shoot an AMRAAM. Even somehow Su-37 evade the missile, it already looses its speed while evading the missile. F-22 will shoot another missile.

Got it?

If i'm the F-22 pilot, I wouldn't enagege the enemy within visual range
realdennis79 (November 17, 2008 at 6:56 am)
Lock down first. Shoot first. Kill first. It's the F-22's roll. Clear out enemy threat in air.

In near future, it will have air to ground capability as well. Then it will clear out enemy radars on the ground.

After F-22 completes above tasks. Its advanced radar and low RCS will help it to perform reconnaissance behind enemy line.
Fulgore597 (November 13, 2008 at 3:12 am)
what the hell, yes weight definitely have an effect on aircraft's even YOU, should that weight has an effect on the aircraft or you wouldn't have compared an 15 with no payload, or as you said CLEAN, compared to a fully loaded F-22.When more weight is applied, more fuel and propulsion is needed,which effects it's speed.BTW you mean SR-71 Blackbird,that was NASA,Lockheed Boeing test aircraft to use plasma engines.
em745aa (November 13, 2008 at 4:22 am)
-"what the hell, yes weight definitely have an effect on aircraft..."

LOL! Okay, PAY ATTENTION this time. Payload affects top speed ONLY in the sense that it adds aerodynamic drag when it's mounted externally, like on the F-15 (or every other 4th gen. fighter). Weight plays very little into it (if at all).

The F-22's missiles are carried inside, thus NO additional drag to slow it down. Capiche? Comprende?
shbycbra427 (November 13, 2008 at 4:45 am)
I don't know for sure what happens to drag by the time you get way above the speed of sound. Some wierd things happen that may or may not make weight a factor but I severely doubt that it does. Any mach 2 or 2.5 would definately fit into this area though. Do you know what happens by any chance?
shbycbra427 (November 13, 2008 at 4:33 am)
By the time you get up to mach 2.5, drag will depend mainly on your mach number and it should be the main thing slowing you down. Your engine power and drag coefficient will definately have way more effect than the weight of the plane since weight doesn't matter very much for top speed or an aircraft.

More weight will reduce your acceleration and cornering though which is what most pilots would be concerned about.
em745aa (November 13, 2008 at 6:51 am)
-"By the time you get up to mach 2.5, drag will depend mainly on your mach number"

Drag is drag. The only point in all of this is that the F-15's "mythical" Mach 2.5+ top speed can only be achieved in an ultra clean condition (without the sidewinder racks even!).

The Raptor carries its 8 missiles internally. So unlike the F-15, its aerodynamics are unaffected. Weight isn't an issue here. If the Raptor can achieve Mach 2.4+, then it can do so WITH a missile load. THAT's the point.
shbycbra427 (November 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm)
Yeah but you didn't really answer my question about drag at really high speeds. Everything you said is pretty obvious but it doesn't really address the question.
em745aa (November 13, 2008 at 1:15 am)
Fulgore597:

An aircraft's weight (or T/W for that matter) has little bearing on its top speed (Ex. SR-71, Concorde). Drag has _FAR_ more of an effect.

Again, load an F-22 with 8 missiles (all internal) and an F-15 with 8 missiles (all external), and the F-22 will be faster by a good margin.